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Sean continues his interview with Barbara Wiseman of the Lawrence Anthony Earth Organization. Barbara finishes her story of the rogue elephants and tells another of some brutal poachers and what they recently did to one of their facilities in South Africa full of baby rhino. She gives a great account of Lawrence's efforts to work with an African rebel group, and discusses an amazing method of cleaning up oil spills (10,000 spills reported in the U.S. each year) that's inexpensive, non-toxic and not used in the U.S. thanks to the FDA.